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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:50 am

    SAIC Motor - January Sales 2010


    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 10,286 28
    MG 3SW1,834 107
    Roewe 7501,333111
    MG 61,114 116
    MG 7270 140
    SAIC Motor Total14,83721


    SAIC Motor - February Sales 2010


    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 6,58528
    MG 3SW678 121
    Roewe 750692120
    MG 61,886 100
    MG 7141196
    SAIC Motor Total10,03721


    SAIC Motor - March Sales 2010



    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 921726
    MG 3SW2121 105
    Roewe 750782128
    MG 6675131
    MG 7222147
    SAIC Motor Total13,01721
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Mon May 17, 2010 7:17 am

    SAIC Motor - April Sales 2010

    The Roewe 550 has taken a couple of steps up the ranking table,
    The MG 6 has taken 29 steps up the ranking table,
    The MG 3SW has taken 32 steps down the ranking table,
    The Roewe 750 is static,
    The MG 7 drops 2 places,

    But the big news - The Roewe 350 is straight in as third best seller for SAIC Motor behind the Roewe 550 and MG 6. A bit of a supprise as it wasn't officially launched until the Beijing Show which only started on the 23rd of the month!

    All of which pushes SAIC Motor 2 steps up the ranks to 19th, just ahead of Dongfeng Honda.


    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 851324
    MG 62123102
    Roewe 350953126
    Roewe 750797 128
    MG 3SW436 137
    MG 7185 149
    SAIC Motor Total13,00719
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Mon May 17, 2010 2:07 pm

    Windy wrote:SAIC Motor - April Sales 2010

    The Roewe 550 has taken a couple of steps up the ranking table,
    The MG 6 has taken 29 steps up the ranking table,
    The MG 3SW has taken 32 steps down the ranking table,
    The Roewe 750 is static,
    The MG 7 drops 2 places,

    But the big news - The Roewe 350 is straight in as third best seller for SAIC Motor behind the Roewe 550 and MG 6. A bit of a supprise as it wasn't officially launched until the Beijing Show which only started on the 23rd of the month!

    All of which pushes SAIC Motor 2 steps up the ranks to 19th, just ahead of Dongfeng Honda.


    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 851324
    MG 62123102
    Roewe 350953126
    Roewe 750797 128
    MG 3SW436 137
    MG 7185 149
    SAIC Motor Total13,00719

    Just out of interest, if SAIC Motor is 19th in China, all the other bits of SAIC together must be pretty high...
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Mon May 17, 2010 2:47 pm

    patpending wrote:Just out of interest, if SAIC Motor is 19th in China, all the other bits of SAIC together must be pretty high...
    The 2010 April national automobile manufacturers of car sales rank:

    1 Shanghai General Motors 82086
    2 Volkswagen 70090
    3 Shanghai Volkswagen 66019
    4 Dongfeng Nissan 47872
    5 Beijing modern 47575
    6 BYD 45104
    7 Chery Automobile 35597
    8 Changan Ford 33168
    9 Kili automobile 32367
    10 Shenlong automobile 31873
    11 FAW Toyota 31641
    12 Guangzhou Honda 27133
    13 FAW car 22865
    14 Dongfeng yueda KIA 20096
    15 Tianjin FAW 19042
    16 Chang'an Suzuki 17008
    17 Guangzhou Toyota 16387
    18 Shenyang Brilliance 13907
    19 Shanghai Automotive 13007
    20 Dongfeng Honda 11839

    Not a perfect translation, but I think 161,112 a month is a lot of cars!
    In fact they must be on target to exceed 2 million this year...
    And don't forget that they make a lot more vehicles than just the cars.
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Tue May 18, 2010 1:35 am

    Thanks Windy, so through their JVs SAIC are no.1 and no.3 also!

    How come there are two kinds of Volkswagen? Did VW start with the Santana and then go it alone?
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Tue May 18, 2010 2:57 am

    patpending wrote:Thanks Windy, so through their JVs SAIC are no.1 and no.3 also!

    How come there are two kinds of Volkswagen? Did VW start with the Santana and then go it alone?
    Volkswagen have two joint ventures, one with SAIC and one with FAW (First Auto Works), seems a bit greedy but it works!

    For some reason the autotranslate considers FAW Volkswagen to just be Volkswagan!

    Mind you the characters don't mention cars at all so it is still a fairly clever translation:

    一汽大众 - One Steam People
    上海大众 - Shanghai People
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Tue May 18, 2010 10:25 am

    Windy wrote:
    一汽大众 - One Steam People
    上海大众 - Shanghai People

    Hmm, I recall "One Steam, South Steam, Above Steam, four" to the tune of the Banana Splits,

    In there I spotted a One, a Steam and a Shang. Must remember "people".

    Is "Mitsubishi" ever translated into Chinese or is it phonetic? Does it mention "three diamonds"? Laughing (there again, "three diamonds" in Chinese could well be "Mitsubishi" Laughing) (certainly looks similar, "my san" 三钻石三菱)
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Wed May 19, 2010 2:41 pm

    patpending wrote:
    Windy wrote:
    一汽大众 - One Steam People
    上海大众 - Shanghai People

    Hmm, I recall "One Steam, South Steam, Above Steam, four" to the tune of the Banana Splits,

    In there I spotted a One, a Steam and a Shang. Must remember "people".

    Is "Mitsubishi" ever translated into Chinese or is it phonetic? Does it mention "three diamonds"? Laughing (there again, "three diamonds" in Chinese could well be "Mitsubishi" Laughing) (certainly looks similar, "my san" 三钻石三菱)
    Mitsubishi ( 三菱 ) ranked 35 with 2649 cars sold in April, MG on it's own is ahead!

    The same characters are used in both languages and have the same meaning so it needs no translation, however the characters in chinese would be pronounced "san ling". I would guess that most pronounce it Mitusbishi though?

    It appears that it actually means "3 water chestnuts" rather than "3 diamonds", the company started off as a shipping company! The "3 diamonds" is a correct alternative translation of the characters.
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Thu May 20, 2010 12:25 am

    So it has something in common with the MG logo!

    Origins of the Famous Emblem

    The name "Mitsubishi" refers to the three-diamond emblem. "Mitsubishi" is a combination of the words mitsu and hishi. Mitsu means three.

    Hishi means water chestnut, and Japanese have used the word for a long time to denote a rhombus or diamond shape. Japanese often bend the "h" sound to a "b" sound when it occurs in the middle of a word. So they pronounce the combination of mitsu and hishi as mitsubishi.

    Yataro Iwasaki, the founder of the old Mitsubishi organization, chose the three-diamond mark as the emblem for his company. The mark is suggestive of the three-leaf crest of the Tosa Clan, Yataro's first employer, and also of the three stacked rhombuses of the Iwasaki family crest.


    http://www.mitsubishi.com/e/group/mark.html

    Although those leaves look like chestnut leaves, they dont look like water chestnut leaves scratch
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Thu May 20, 2010 2:31 pm

    Thanks.

    So what about the bamboo shoots? Wink

    "MG outsells Mitsubishi" - that's quite a story. Who's telling Jussi? Laughing
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:05 pm

    SAIC Motor - May Sales 2010

    The Roewe 350 jumps from position 126 up to position 66 with 4310 sold. The MG3SW is up from 137 to 123.
    The MG7 stays in position 149.
    The Roewe 550 is down from 24 to 56, the MG6 drops from 102 to 106 and the Roewe 750 from 128 to 133.
    That leaves SAIC Motor maintaining 19th place.

    That's a good figure for the 350s first full month on sale,
    I've no idea why the 550 has done so poorly this month?


    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 527656
    Roewe 350431066
    MG 61717106
    MG 3SW1011 123
    Roewe 750559 133
    MG 7144 149
    SAIC Motor Total13,01719
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    Roewe 350 Production

    Post by Windy on Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:31 am


    Roewe 350 Production

    The first 10,000 Roewe 350 recently at the Pukou base is completed, thus Pukou base monthly over 6000, entered mass production stage.

    Roewe 350 in March this year, the beginning off the assembly line, monthly output is only 300, after an interval of 3 months after the upgrade to the current 5,000 units, and is to a higher goal. It is reported that in June 6500 is the Pukou production base plan, which yield 5400 Roewe 350, July, Roewe 350 production target will break through 7,000 mark for the first time, reaching a record 7300, the company will break through 8,000 monthly. According to another sales company said the listing of Roewe 350 in the first month recieved the 10,000 orders, the market is in short supply in the state.

    It is understood that earlier this year, Nanjing Auto Pukou base plan Roewe 350 production located in the 50,000 this year, the current production base has started two shifts of production.
    Source: http://auto.cnfol.com/100623/169,1691,7900531,00.shtml

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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:47 am

    June 2010 sales:
    SAIC Motor gains two places into 17th place.


    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 741631
    Roewe 350539450
    MG 61689108
    MG 3SW640136
    Roewe 750644135
    MG 7124157
    SAIC Motor Total15,90717

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    July 2010 sales

    Post by Windy on Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:37 am

    Sales are down a little in July but SAIC Motor still gains one place into 16th.


    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 579034
    Roewe 350462253
    MG 61636103
    MG 3SW298146
    Roewe 750614133
    MG 716247
    SAIC Motor Total13,00716

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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:51 pm

    Windy wrote:Sales are down a little in July but SAIC Motor still gains one place into 16th.
    so total sales are down more?
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:27 pm

    patpending wrote:
    Windy wrote:Sales are down a little in July but SAIC Motor still gains one place into 16th.
    so total sales are down more?
    China is seeing a downturn in auto sales at the moment, or at least a drop in the rate of increase! I suspect the drop shown by the Roewe 550 is typical, SAIC-Motor is doing better due to the 350. Ignoring the spike in June the figures are actually very slightly up!
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:14 am

    patpending wrote:
    Windy wrote:Sales are down a little in July but SAIC Motor still gains one place into 16th.
    so total sales are down more?
    The top 20, a few have jumped up, the rest are down significantly:











    June

    July

    1 Shanghai Volkswagen 79025
    2 Faw-Volkswagen 73254
    3 Shanghai GM 63591
    4 Dongfeng Nissan 47748
    5 Beijing Hyundai 44334
    6 BYD 35350
    7 Changan Ford 30982
    8 Chery Automobile 29498
    9 Geely automobile 28006
    10 Shenlong automobile 25082
    11 Faw car 23567
    12 Faw Toyota 22655
    13 Guangzhou Honda 22608
    14 Dongfeng yueda KIA 18193
    15 Tianjin Faw 17879
    16 Faw-Volkswagen 16178
    17 Shanghai Automotive 15907
    18 Changan Suzuki 15856
    19 Shenyang brilliance 15758
    20 ChangAn Automobile 15074

    1 Shanghai GM 73203
    2 Shanghai Volkswagen 72843
    3 Faw-Volkswagen 62375
    4 Dongfeng Nissan 45888
    5 Beijing Hyundai 37733
    6 BYD 33029
    7 Guangzhou Honda 30456
    8 Faw Toyota 27223
    9 Chery Automobile 26809
    10 Geely automobile 26225
    11 Changan Ford 25145
    12 Shenlong automobile 24767
    13 Faw car 20034
    14 Dongfeng yueda KIA 16863
    15 Guangqi Toyota 16849
    16 Shanghai Automotive 13007
    17 Tianjin Faw 11170
    18 Changan Suzuki 10012
    19 Shenyang brilliance 9824
    20 ChangAn Automobile 9571
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:43 am

    So the GM JV has done well, but VW is only in the Top 20 twice instead of three times!

    Of course sales are up on last month ignoring last month - that's like EBITDA (pre-cost profit) Laughing
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:24 am

    patpending wrote:So the GM JV has done well, but VW is only in the Top 20 twice instead of three times!
    That is what the figures say - I spent a while trying to work it out before posting but I don't understand! (The third has disapeared rather than fallen out of the top 20.)

    It does mean that SAIC are now in 1st, 2nd and 16th - must be an improvement.

    patpending wrote:Of course sales are up on last month ignoring last month - that's like EBITDA (pre-cost profit) Laughing
    It means that the trend is still up Wink, at least until we get another dot on the graph!
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    August Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:49 am

    A poor month for the Roewe 750, falling down below the MG3SW once again, also poor for the UK MG TF. The Roewe 350 has now just about caught the Roewe 550.

    Although Chinese sales were up for the month, SAIC has lost two places putting them back into 18th position, even worse, FAW Volkswagan have taken the No. 1 spot and if you include UK sales then total SAIC Auto sales are down.


    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 562945
    Roewe 350550050
    MG 61330119
    MG 3SW262149
    Roewe 750215152
    MG 776163
    SAIC Motor Total13,01218



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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:17 pm

    Windy wrote:It means that the trend is still up Wink, at least until we get another dot on the graph!
    we must be re-assessing the trend in the light of that dot... Sad
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:52 am

    patpending wrote:
    Windy wrote:It means that the trend is still up Wink, at least until we get another dot on the graph!
    we must be re-assessing the trend in the light of that dot... Sad
    Well the long term trend is still up drunken

    But they do now seem to be on target to miss the annual sales target of 180,000, especially if the MG3 doesn't appear until Guangzhou!

    The worrying thing is loosing the ranking positions but maybe that just indicates that they are selling to a different/more specialised set of customers.
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:19 pm

    Windy wrote:
    patpending wrote:
    Windy wrote:It means that the trend is still up Wink, at least until we get another dot on the graph!
    we must be re-assessing the trend in the light of that dot... Sad
    Well the long term trend is still up drunken

    But they do now seem to be on target to miss the annual sales target of 180,000, especially if the MG3 doesn't appear until Guangzhou!

    The worrying thing is loosing the ranking positions but maybe that just indicates that they are selling to a different/more specialised set of customers.
    if sales are down, they might not be chasing that elusive deal and profitability could be up...I note the MG6 may not be on sale in the UK until March...
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by ZTsteve on Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:55 am

    patpending wrote:...I note the MG6 may not be on sale in the UK until March...

    That's bad news! Did they say why?
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:19 pm

    ZTsteve wrote:
    patpending wrote:...I note the MG6 may not be on sale in the UK until March...

    That's bad news! Did they say why?

    No: it's Perkins on .org:

    http://forums.mg-rover.org/showpost.php?p=4024421&postcount=2

    (of Rayne, not of Savoie)Laughing


    Just been told that official launch should be around mid March
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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:42 pm

    Information from dealers does tend to be somewhat inaccurate, especially when they are trying to sell a car...
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    September Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:55 am

    Sales of everything are up, MG were very close to having all the ranks up too, Roewe hasn't done so well on the Ranks.

    The Roewe 350 just failed to overtake the Roewe 550.


    Shanghai GM are back in number 1 and Shanghai VW back in number 2.



    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 593453
    Roewe 350564759
    MG 61782123
    MG 3SW481145
    Roewe 750276153
    MG 7117160
    SAIC Motor Total14,23719

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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:02 am

    October sales - not such a good month, it's all gone red Crying or Very sad

    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 498464
    Roewe 350428172
    MG 61486125
    Roewe 750225 154
    MG 3SW180158
    MG 761168
    SAIC Motor Total11,21721

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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by Windy on Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:44 am

    November sales

    Apart from the MG3SW which is soon to be replaced and the MGTF for which it is the wrong time of year, everything is green with improvements in sales and ranking Smile

    The second highest month for sales ever sunny


    CarSalesRank
    Roewe 550 646157
    Roewe 350605061
    MG 61789122
    Roewe 750390148
    MG 7113162
    MG 3SW67167
    SAIC Motor Total14,87020


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    Re: 2010 - Sales Figures

    Post by patpending on Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:29 pm

    purely taking MG-badged cars, how close are these to the 2010 target of 36,000?

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