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    Sales - Chile

    Post by Windy on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:39 am

    MG sold 469 vehicles in Chile in the year 2011 putting it in 40th place ahead of:

    41 LEXUS 459
    42 MINI 435
    44 PORSCHE 325
    45 HAIMA 249
    47 SKODA 173
    48 ALFA ROMEO 96
    50 JAGUAR 79
    51 BRILLIANCE 67
    52 ASTON MARTIN 29
    53 FERRARI 16
    54 SMA 12
    55 MASERATI 11

    Total sales were 245,116 with MG having 0.2% of the market, top place went to CHEVROLET with 46,783 (19.1%).

    Interesting to see that Yuejin sold almost as many vehicles with 414 trucks and 11 buses, 2.2% of the 22,131 total, just outselling IVECO.

    Source: http://www.anac.cl/index.php?option=com_docman&Itemid=0&task=doc_download&gid=572

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    Re: Sales - Chile

    Post by patpending on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:49 am

    Well!

    I recounted the dealers and I make that 24, selling MG350, MG550, MG750 and MG6. (not MG3)

    Funny to see Punto Arenas as a city with an MG dealership!

    http://www.mgmotors.cl/frames/concesionarios.asp
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    Re: Sales - Chile

    Post by Windy on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:22 am

    patpending wrote:Well!
    ...
    If I recall correctly then the MG350 is a new addition, which may explain why December figures were well up on previous months with 87 sold and 0.4% of the market - ie double the years average and presumably well over double the early months.
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    Post by Windy on Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:28 am

    Interesting link:


    MG grows by 179 percent during 2011

    The prestigious brand of English origin ends its commercial management with historical growth.

    A successful 2011 was the one who was Morris Garages, emerging brand that is positioned with strength in the domestic market. The manufacturer finished the year with a growth of 179 per cent compared to 2010.

    In this commercial management, one of the models most required by national clients was the MG350, a sophisticated car which came in four versions to our country to compete in the market of medium-sized sedans, being the first and only vehicle capable of solving the complex and coveted formula pursued in this industry: tourism able to perfectly balance the price and quality.

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    Re: Sales - Chile

    Post by Windy on Tue May 15, 2012 3:32 pm

    Sales are holding up, looking certain to be a record year, March exceeded 15% of Fords sales:

    Jan 60 0.3%
    Feb 83 0.5%
    Mar 68 0.3%


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    2012 Chile Sales

    Post by Windy on Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:37 pm

    37 Jan 60 0.3%
    34 Feb 83 0.5%
    37 Mar 68 0.3%
    34 Apr 78 0.4%
    35 May 73 0.3%

    37 YTD 362 0.4



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    Post by patpending on Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:50 am

    and they are going for full year sales of MG3 of 1,000!

    MG Chile are going for 1200 cars sold in 2012, three times as many as 2011:

    http://www.estrategia.cl/detalle_noticia.php?cod=59975&sec=18

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    Re: Sales - Chile

    Post by Windy on Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:53 pm

    No MG3 sales in June...


    37 Jan 60 0.3%
    34 Feb 83 0.5%
    37 Mar 68 0.3%
    34 Apr 78 0.4%
    35 May 73 0.3%
    40 Jun 50 0.3%

    37 YTD 412 0.3%
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    Post by Windy on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 am

    Guess the MG3 went on sale, MG car sales have overtaken LandRover, Audi, Volvo, Merc and BMW Shocked

    37 Jan 60 0.3%
    34 Feb 83 0.5%
    37 Mar 68 0.3%
    34 Apr 78 0.4%
    35 May 73 0.3%
    40 Jun 50 0.3%
    28 Jul 260 0.8%

    33 YTD 572 0.4%
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    Re: Sales - Chile

    Post by patpending on Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:41 am

    EDITED

    Look at that! Compared to Chile, UK sales are nearly a rounding. 260 in one month! And they don't have a factory...


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    Post by Windy on Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:43 am

    patpending wrote:Look at that! Compared to Chile, UK sales are a rounding. 500+ in one month! And they don't have a factory...
    Not sure you understood my table there.

    I just added July:

    "28 Jul 260 0.8%"

    That is that MG is the 28th most popular brand selling 260 cars in July and taking nearly 1% of the market. "YTD" is year to the end of July. No August figures published yet.


    I find the 0.8% quite surprising, in the UK that would amount to around 1,260 cars per month.
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    Post by patpending on Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:07 am

    Windy wrote:
    patpending wrote:Look at that! Compared to Chile, UK sales are a rounding. 500+ in one month! And they don't have a factory...
    Not sure you understood my table there.

    I just added July:

    "28 Jul 260 0.8%"

    That is that MG is the 28th most popular brand selling 260 cars in July and taking nearly 1% of the market. "YTD" is year to the end of July. No August figures published yet.


    I find the 0.8% quite surprising, in the UK that would amount to around 1,260 cars per month.
    You're right, I didn't understand. But the 260 cars in July are directly comparable only with the UK's March results.
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    Re: Sales - Chile

    Post by Windy on Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:49 am

    patpending wrote:But the 260 cars in July are directly comparable only with the UK's March results.
    Except that the UK buys far more cars than Chile so even in March MG only had 0.06% of the UK market which is nowhere near 0.8%. Even in China, MG and Roewe together only have 1.17% of the market, so you could say that MG sells better in Chile than in China!
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    Post by patpending on Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:26 am

    Windy wrote:
    patpending wrote:But the 260 cars in July are directly comparable only with the UK's March results.
    Except that the UK buys far more cars than Chile so even in March MG only had 0.06% of the UK market which is nowhere near 0.8%. Even in China, MG and Roewe together only have 1.17% of the market, so you could say that MG sells better in Chile than in China!

    yes, the comparison is that Chile is far more successful than the UK.

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    Post by alex200ex on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:01 am

    patpending wrote:
    Windy wrote:
    patpending wrote:But the 260 cars in July are directly comparable only with the UK's March results.
    Except that the UK buys far more cars than Chile so even in March MG only had 0.06% of the UK market which is nowhere near 0.8%. Even in China, MG and Roewe together only have 1.17% of the market, so you could say that MG sells better in Chile than in China!

    yes, the comparison is that Chile is far more successful than the UK.

    The manufacturer ended the period from January to June with a growth of 187 percent over the same period of 2011, selling 436 units throughout Chile.

    In this commercial management, one of the preferred models for domestic customers was the MG350, vehicle which 350 units were sold, resulting in an increase of 17 percent.

    sorry for bad English – translated automatically from chilean site
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    Post by patpending on Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:24 am

    alex200ex wrote:sorry for bad English – translated automatically from chilean site
    wish my Spanish was as good as that autotranslated English! albino albino

    NB What was your source, if you could post the link?
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    Post by Windy on Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:11 am

    alex200ex wrote:sorry for bad English – translated automatically from chilean site
    This website has lots of automatically translated bad English, it's normal so no need to be sorry Wink

    But we do like to have a link so that those who can read spanish can see what the original actually said.

    -------------------

    An interesting comment about Chile from Maxus (in bold):

    Relevant departments of the State the forthcoming relevant export control measures, will make the booming export situation of own-brand cars more orderly.

      On September 9, the notice on the official website of the Ministry of Commerce said: declared on the export certificate for automobile and motorcycle manufacturing enterprises should be included in the Ministry of industry and information technology of the vehicle manufacturers and product announcements, and have a valid national compulsory product certification (CCC certification). In addition, all product category that fits the stock of production shall be enterprises with export of maintenance service capacity.

      Notice that: from next year, Ministry of Commerce, Ministry of industry and information technology, General Administration of customs, State administration of quality supervision, CNCA 5 sectors reported by the joint production ventures overseas after-sales service network auditing, Enterprise export scale, the classification management of production Enterprise export authorization. On the quality of exports products abroad have undergone major events and significant adverse impact on China's export enterprises, relevant departments the most severe measure is to eliminate its export qualification.

      "We hope the State can regulate the export market, which will promote the orderly development of overseas markets, contributed to collective of Chinese enterprises in overseas famous brand." MAXUS overseas Department Manager Poon said in an interview with reporters.

      Yang Aiguo, Deputy Secretary General of the China Chamber of Commerce car branch believes, "to deliberately disrupt the export market, vicious price competition, as well as extremely irresponsible for enterprises to develop punitive measures conducive to maintaining overall image of Chinese products. ”

      Draw the first lessons

      According to the steam vehicle Enterprise export data show that total 487,900 vehicles in the first half of China's exports, rose 28%, total car exports this year are expected to exceed baiwanliang, up 27.48% per cent; exports are expected to reach $ 17.472 billion, 59.37% per cent growth over the previous year. Once again achieved high growth, the industry generally believe that own-brand passenger cars in China ushered in the second wave of exports.

      Own-brand passenger car business in China were exported from launched in 2001, and exported the first peak in 2008 arrives. 2008 full year export passenger cars of more than 300,000 vehicles, however, under the influence of the global financial crisis in 2009, collective enterprises in overseas markets shrank nearly half of passenger car. 2009 passenger car exports 149,600 vehicles, down 57%.

      Experts have been exported overseas in the first wave's defeat summed up China's own brand only sell cars without brand. "Early Chinese auto companies know only sell cars, did not know that selling cars to provide a service, the knowledge of foreign law and operating rules. "France Marseille China director Wang Hua said.

      "Chery in 2001 to start exporting, there was only a trade section, the idea is very simple, is to sell cars. "Chery oversea investment General Manager Wang Mo also confessed.

      "After the financial crisis in 2009, Chery began to rethink. Carding export business and started again in 2010. "Wang Mo said, in some of the markets have gained a certain market capacity, Chery gradually change policy, go strategy adjusted to go strategy, start thinking about how to have sustained development in overseas markets.

      International section of great wall motor vehicle business Vice President Shi Qingke also said, "China, the great wall had been spontaneously initiated planning for overall brand development, in addition to overseas CKD, SKD factory, great wall motor requires dealers to do great wall products must have franchise stores.

      "Most of the own-brand cars in China is not the simplest vehicles sold, but to truly in-depth overseas markets, CKD, SKD factory being built in local, and began to focus on establishing sales network and after-sale service system, wish to seek overseas famous brand. "Roland Berger, Vice President, greater China Shen June said.

      In Iran, has set its own car brand Chery, had achieved sales of 50,000 vehicles a year. Geely in the Ukraine market also became a local "luxury car", share rose to 75%. And the great wall has been in more than 100 countries and sales shop in the market.

      Those international in the low-end market

      In recent years, independent brand in product quality improvement they have made a lot of Kung Fu. In the Middle East, Latin America, and Russia, the Middle East and North Africa after the non-developed areas such as, a number of leading enterprises in the export, has begun to explore the road of the developed countries.

      SAIC MG has been achieved in the United Kingdom held a public ceremony and MAXUS has landed in Australia market. Faw Mexico established and joint ventures. Opened in February of this year Bulgaria factories make great wall motor in the EU for the first time the production of cars.

      "Australia and Chile are relatively high-end market, to enter these markets the same as entry into the frontiers of Europe. "MAXUS overseas Department Manager Poon told reporters that both markets are performing a collision with European legislation, once approved, access to the European market requires only product configuration upgrade.

      Mexico is part of the North American free trade area, in Mexico's products are licensed, can be directly entered the North American market. Great Bulgaria is positioned to become the factory cars sold in the European market and supply base for SUV, this year it is expected to achieve the scale of production and sales of 3,000 vehicles.

      For upgrading on the ability of independent brands, LMC Automotive (formerly j. D Power) Asia Pacific auto market research director Zeng Zhiling (micro-blogging) by optimism that "this largely due to China increasing quality and skill levels in recent years. After the success of China's auto exports experienced a second wave, is likely to replace Korea cars, as the world in the low-end market is very good complement.

      However, the cars in the middle of access to world markets, still faces a number of urgent issues. One is against policy in some countries, still not fully understood. Last month, Chery and great wall motor in Australia had suffered "asbestos."

      "Australia has in 2004 on the comprehensive disabled, asbestos in Europe and other developed countries have long been prohibited from use. This in fact reflects China's passenger car business to export laws and regulations haven't researched. "PAC Advisor Zhou Fangyu recognized.

      In addition, the international market of Chinese enterprises ' difficulty in fully expected changes. On September 15 last year, Brazil suddenly was enacted by the Government automotive industrial products tax policy, Brazil imported cars on the market cost up to 25%, a direct result of Chinese enterprises could not compete on the ground. Under the influence of this, jianghuai Brazil car plant construction has stopped.

      At the same time, Chinese companies abroad are still based primarily on price to win, "is China's own brand in many countries between the competition results to their own beat. "Shen June concluded that vicious competition will result in overall lower profits, brand damage, to the detriment of international sustainable development.
    Source: http://roll.sohu.com/20120912/n352975615.shtml

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    Re: Sales - Chile

    Post by alex200ex on Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:14 am

    patpending wrote:NB What was your source, if you could post the link?

    Beginners have not permission post a link on this forum. Source of data - Chile mgmotors site, news page.
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    Post by patpending on Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:28 am

    alex200ex wrote:
    patpending wrote:NB What was your source, if you could post the link?

    Beginners have not permission post a link on this forum. Source of data - Chile mgmotors site, news page.

    Well, well. Just make a few more posts and you'll be able to.

    Is this the news item?

    http://www.mgmotors.cl/frames/noticias_16.asp

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    Post by alex200ex on Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:05 pm

    Yes.
    Named: MG crece un 187 por ciento durante primer semestre
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    Post by Windy on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:28 am

    Only 97 in August and down to 0.5% of all the cars sold in Chile. Still outsold Volvo, Skoda, Opel...
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    Post by Windy on Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:12 am


    37 Jan 60 0.3%
    34 Feb 83 0.5%
    37 Mar 68 0.3%
    34 Apr 78 0.4%
    35 May 73 0.3%
    40 Jun 50 0.3%
    28 Jul 260 0.8%
    34 Aug 97 0.5%
    29 Sep 203 0.8%

    33 YTD 872 0.5%

    I wonder if they ran out of MG3s in August scratch Laughing
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    Post by Windy on Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:32 pm

    37 Jan 60 0.3%
    34 Feb 83 0.5%
    37 Mar 68 0.3%
    34 Apr 78 0.4%
    35 May 73 0.3%
    40 Jun 50 0.3%
    28 Jul 260 0.8%
    34 Aug 97 0.5%
    29 Sep 203 0.8%
    30 Oct 175 0.7%
    26 Nov 220 1.0%

    32 YTD 1,267 0.5%


    Shocked I guess they got an extra ship load in November to make up for August then - 1 in every 100 cars sold was an MG cheers

    They beat BMW on 202 this month and are only two sales short of Volkswagen on 222 bom

    What was that sales target for the year...


    For comparison, in the UK Jaguar had 0.72% of the market in November so MG in Chile is now more popular than Jaguar is in the UK.
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    Post by Windy on Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:03 pm

    patpending wrote:and they are going for full year sales of MG3 of 1,000!

    MG Chile are going for 1200 cars sold in 2012, three times as many as 2011:

    http://www.estrategia.cl/detalle_noticia.php?cod=59975&sec=18

    Ahh, 1200 - and you thought they were being optimistic, they have passed that target and there is still a month to go!
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    Post by Windy on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:39 pm

    Full year results:

    37 Jan 60 0.3%
    34 Feb 83 0.5%
    37 Mar 68 0.3%
    34 Apr 78 0.4%
    35 May 73 0.3%
    40 Jun 50 0.3%
    28 Jul 260 0.8%
    34 Aug 97 0.5%
    29 Sep 203 0.8%
    30 Oct 175 0.7%
    26 Nov 220 1.0%
    30 Dec 193 0.8%

    2012 Total - 1,460 cars, 0.6% of the market, 32nd place, a year on year increase of 321%.

    Total number of cars sold in Chile in 2012 = 257,013

    MG Chile beat their target of 1200 by 22%.
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    Post by Windy on Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:13 am

    That had me puzzled for a minute.

    If anyone is wondering why they report MG as having 0.4% of the market when I reported 0.6% it is because they included some brands that I didn't.

    I don't think that IVECO, Yuejin Buses, Mercedes Benz Trucks etc are in quite the same market as the MG3 Exclamation

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    Post by Mirtininkas on Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:31 am

    Windy, you shouldn't change statistics, let it be how it is, i don't agree how you count the sales in China either.
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    Post by Windy on Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:27 am

    Mirtininkas wrote:Windy, you shouldn't change statistics, let it be how it is, i don't agree how you count the sales in China either.
    I think most countries publish the passenger car figures seperately from the commercial vehicles, certainly the UK and China do, although China also seperate out the SUVs. Chile also seperate them, but also publish a total for all vehicles. They have used the total, I have used the official passenger car figures, I don't change the figures from the official figures for any countries.

    They have also reported "Chile Full Year 2012" using the figures published in December! - that is they only included the first 11 months Rolling Eyes
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    Post by patpending on Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:33 am

    Mirtininkas wrote:Windy, you shouldn't change statistics, let it be how it is, i don't agree how you count the sales in China either.

    ?

    Official figures can be very misleading. In Germany, all Chevrolets count as "American" and all Hyundais and Kias as "Korean" - even the ones from the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Turkey. If sales of VW Polos and Audi TTs from Spain and Hungary go up in a flat market, then imports are down. I shall be interested to see how MGs are counted. MINIs may already count as German (B*W Group) - otherwise British. Certainly no MINI goes down as an Austrian import! Wink

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