MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

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    MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by patpending on Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:31 pm

    Following its unveiling to dealers and journos, the MG3 was unveiled to the public for the first time at MG Live!

    Seven pre-production MG3s were on display, three the public could sit in - a red and a white high-spec one (DAB, leather seats, reversing sensors) and a blue lower-spec one with attractive cloth seats. Specs and pricing are not yet finalised. There were also four further ones - a yellow and a grey one with vinyls, the blue one which was unveiled, and a white one with a sunroof (won't be in production as this would overcomplicate the process).

    It was windy before the unveiling (a good omen!)




    then came the unveiling:





    You could just see what was inside the car...






    but three cars were on show for punters to sit in.

    MG Motor supplied people who knew what they were talking about technically to talk to the prospective customers, including a younger man off the production line who will be making these from IIRC mid-August, and the product manager Andrew Lowerson.



    The production line worker was livid at Clarkson bashing *his* cars for "not being British" and for blaming a fault with the car for Clarkson's inability to operate the stop/start on a car which had actually been supplied to someone else at Top Gear - a producer? He had put his £100 down for a red one. What people order in the first pre-orders will inform MG as to what mix is likely thereafter.

    MG3 and MG6 share the same line. MG3's vinyls are applied professionally at the end of the line here. MG will not dictate combinations. Vinyls will be guaranteed for one year.

    Andrew Lowerson said there had been less UK product input into MG6 than with MG3. He said everything inside the car was how he had wanted it, including dash quality.

    The key goes on the right, the dials are big (30-50-70 not 20-40-60) and the top-spec leather steering wheel has audio controls which also interact with a mobile phone, either via USB or by Bluetooth.

    The car I was in could get Absolute 80s on DAB - the sound quality is subjectively excellent when parked with the engine off with six speakers including two tweeters in the front and four big speakers in the doors.

    The dials "rev up" to max when you turn the key, as with MG6.





    The car is very spacious, subjectively more so than the Mk2 Golf, which was the same size. Four people my size could easily fit in it - unlike (say) the Citroën C3. I could not stretch my arm to the far door of the car. If the seat is fully back for a very tall man (over 6') I could ride a short distance in the back. If I was driving I would not need the seat fully back and I could travel in comfort behind myself. This is a big improvement on my ZS and also better than the Mk2 Golf.

    There are three trims of seat, 1) black leather 2) grey leather 3) cloth similar to the Zero which will be on the entry-level model. All seats are sports seats.

    Trim such as the leather steering wheel above can vary - the red surround on the vents will be an option and there will also be silver and black IIRC.

    DAB radio and reversing sensors will be on on the higher-spec models. No model will have satnav initially as this would complicate the car and drive up the price.

    The handbrake is conventional and on the driver's (RH) side of where there isn't a transmission tunnel. A big improvement on MG6.Also on the centre not-transmission-tunnel are two forward cupholders, one towards the rear, a button to disable EPC, I think, and a 12V socket. Optionally this can be a lighter and the rearmost cupholder can be an ashtray.

    The boot is a good size:



    Only now do I see a 60-40 split rear seat backs- I didn't ask at the time.

    Under the carpet there is room for a full-size spare or other options.

    Higher-spec trim will have reversing sensors.

    The bonnet props up conventionally, with a stick. As on the 6 (and the Mk2 Golf) the release is in the passenger footwell.



    There is plenty of room for larger engines/ a diesel. We hear rumours of/wishes for both a smaller, more-frugal engine and a larger turbo nutter variant.

    MG have obviously decided that the driving experience will be key, as the competition offer cars with far less oomph at the expected pricing points.


    There is a docking station for phones to supply music and satnav on an adjustable sticky mount. (Note the central cubbyhole has a sliding screen). Many things the Zed driver has to visit a mechanic for to reset in T4 are user-configurable - the idea is few buttons and only those you regularly use, the rest being set in menus. For instance, drivers infrequently change the fan speed on the heating but often adjust the temperature.




    compare that with how this historic orange MG uses the dash cubbyhole! (a rear-view mirror)




    Andrew Lowerson told me he had specified all the details of the MG3. I think he has done a superb job! Here he is with a colleague:




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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by Morris Motors on Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:55 am

    Car looks good. Pity about the sunroof.
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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by patpending on Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:29 pm

    Article updated.

    Comparing MG3 against what I would have preferred on MG6:

    http://www.mguk.org/t683-mg6-from-avis-review-by-patpending

    MG6 "Édition Pending"

    As per MG6 GT S plus:

    - sunroof (NO Crying or Very sad)
    - DAB radio (YES)
    - simpler handbrake (YES YES YES)
    - larger speedo and rev counter (YES) (AND 30/50/70!)
    - wood and chrome dash (NO but coloured inserts)

    MG6 "Édition Plato BTCC"

    As per MG6 GT S plus:

    - more-powerful engine (MG New Large Engine?) under the bonnet (wait and see!)
    - Technicolor® paintwork, white sills, and arch extensions with letterboxes from Homebase in them (lots of this!)
    - even-harsher suspension emphasising track-style handling at the expense of ride (wait and see!)
    - larger speedo and rev counter (YES)
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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by patpending on Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:13 pm

    Regarding release timetable, I understand this:



    • June 2013: Pre-order deposits for first cars from Birmingham, £100 deposit.
    • July 2013: Customer extended test drives.
    • August 2013: Pricing and specification announced.
    • August 2013: Production begins.
    • September 2013: Dealer demonstrators arrive, dealers taking orders.
    • October 2013: first cars delivered to customers.
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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by Windy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:49 am

    patpending wrote:


    It's those wheels again, are the any side images which show them clearly instead of at an angle?


    Nice review Smile
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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by patpending on Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:54 am

    Windy wrote:
    patpending wrote:


    It's those wheels again, are the any side images which show them clearly instead of at an angle?


    Nice review Smile

    are they the same as these?


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    Post by snifferdog1 on Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:26 am

    I like those wheels, although I'm guessing they are only 15 inch?!
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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by Windy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:57 am

    snifferdog1 wrote:I like those wheels, although I'm guessing they are only 15 inch?!
    They are certainly different to any other wheels, I reckon they are 16", wonder if they would fit on my ZS?
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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by patpending on Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:58 am

    I've found I took close-ups of two wheels:



    which say 195/55 16


    and these:


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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by Windy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:49 am

    patpending wrote:I've found I took close-ups of two wheels:

    Wonder how you remove the wheel nuts confused

    Especially on the first one scratch

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    Post by Morris Motors on Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:03 pm

    It's a very tight nut cluster! On the first one I imagine it's under a plastic cap that has the logo on.
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    SMTC at MG Live!

    Post by patpending on Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:13 pm

    Also at MG Live! were representatives of SMTC, where I spoke to an IT manager. IT enables the workers in the recently-expanded Design Centre at Longbridge to exchange work with SMTC in Anting. SMTC UK staff also often travel to China.

    SMTC provides great continuity in design with Longbridge back through the days of MG Rover, BMW, British Aerospace and even back to Leyland and BMC days through memories of colleagues who have now retired. The same team going back thirty years but with different hats(!)

    MGCC presented a line of MGs ending MGB - MGZR - MG3 which are SMTC's their heritage. The man I was talking to had been unemployed for a week after the collapse of MG Rover before being taken on by Ricardo 2010, the precursor to SMTC.

    The design team are working four years ahead, first on the CAD/CAM computer. Ideas taken forward to the modelling stage (I remember this happened rarely under MG Rover due to lack of funds) are still visualised in 3D by 40% size models of clay on a frame:



    The rearmost model shows Stage 1 on the right, with the clay in the general shape of the car on the left.

    The front model has Stage 3 on the right (including details in black) while Stage 4 front left is painted in a special silver paint.





    Another reminder of the British skills that continue to go into MGs!

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    Post by snifferdog1 on Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:04 pm

    Those 'second' wheels are definitely my favourite.

    Although I do like the others when done in gloss black.

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    Post by Morris Motors on Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:04 am

    I would imagine that wheels designs and graphics on these will be constantly revised; there's not going to be any money around for metal changes, or interior ones either I wouldn't imagine.

    The other interesting point that occurred to me was this talk of them not having decided the final state of tune yet and that they have the Engine Calibration centre in the UK - that means they can surely work out the 'leanest/greenest' set up for sales purposes, and then let dealers/interested parties know how to rework them for more POWAH....
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    Post by Windy on Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:37 pm

    pig I like the mirrors on this one:



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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by Morris Motors on Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:04 pm

    Dear God.. make it go away..
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    Post by mg-zs on Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:26 am

    Presentation was poorly.
    No one said any word while cover was taken off.
    They struggeled to get it off
    Only handfull clap there hands lol
    Car does not look bad.
    Could do with 17'' and bigger looking exhaust
    They hoped it will do better than the 6
    Not a high target that lol
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    Post by Windy on Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:10 am

    I think they need to add some nice bright MG colours, it looks much better in bright orange than in that brown marmalade colour!




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    Post by Morris Motors on Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:23 am

    Website colour interpretations are rarely accurate, especially with these peculiar shades.
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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by patpending on Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:46 am

    mg-zs wrote:Presentation was poorly.
    No one said any word while cover was taken off.
    They struggeled to get it off
    Only handfull clap there hands lol
    Car does not look bad.
    Could do with 17'' and bigger looking exhaust
    They hoped it will do better than the 6
    Not a high target that lol

    I agree - the only P.A. announcements were being made by Small MG3 Racing Bloke! That game was a brilliant choice for MG, run by such funny professionals.

    I would have hoped to see William Wang and Guy Jones there for such an important event. When Audi A1 was launched at the Goodwood Moving Motor Show, they had a temporary structure the size of the Brighton Pavilion and lots of PR people!
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    Post by mg-zs on Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:11 pm

    I'm trying to be positive.
    But it starting to hurt lol
    So many fail on fail.
    Go to Europe car shows
    Wide range off engines
    And sell it with good promo in Europe
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    Post by Windy on Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:36 pm

    mg-zs wrote:I'm trying to be positive.
    But it starting to hurt lol
    So many fail on fail.
    Go to Europe car shows
    Wide range off engines
    And sell it with good promo in Europe
    It is the Euro MG3, not the UK MG3!

    But it is only for right hand drive countries this year - you will have to wait Crying or Very sad

    patpending wrote:I would have hoped to see William Wang and Guy Jones there for such an important event.
    It is hard to understand why they weren't there!

    And to unveil the car there must have been someone famous and good with a microphone there that they could have used as a guest to unveil it!
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    Re: MG3 Public Unveiling MG Live! 15 June 2013

    Post by mg-zs on Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:55 am

    When the MG6 will come to Holland its already 3 years old.
    Same as MG3 almost.
    I see no reason not to introduce it now
    Or atleast make same promo its coming.
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    Post by patpending on Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:33 pm

    mg-zs wrote:When the MG6 will come to Holland its already 3 years old.
    Same as MG3 almost.
    I see no reason not to introduce it now
    Or atleast make same promo its coming.
    I don't know what's chicken and what's egg. Advertise something you haven't got to sell? In the UK now, have something to sell with little advertising?

    One thing's for sure - look at Clarkson's review when he stalled it - quality and driveability must be very good. But the new model development also needs speeding up big time.

    I could easily make a case for MG to put loads more resources into Europe.

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    Post by adaveabbott on Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:00 pm

    I could not agree more Pat pending, enough time has been lost waiting for the  launch of the 

                                        the MG3.  It is now time for all systems go, with Europe targeted sooner rather than later.

                                        Come on lads lets get cracking. Very Happy

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